Pretty Bitter – Pleaser | Album Review

Tiny Engines

Washington D.C. is covered in monuments and artifacts — libraries dedicated to preservation, tours through important memorials, documentaries that weave the past together, and constant conversations about what D.C. used to be like. The whole city is a nostalgic town, drenched in continuous reminders of what stood there once upon a time and what histories remain. I propose it’s time for a new monument in D.C. — a dollhouse.

For Pretty Bitter’s new album, vocalist Mel Bleker and bassist Miri Tyler spent the past year decorating a dollhouse by hand. The final structure depicted on the cover is a colorful two-story home where each room looks lived in: the bed isn’t made, the refrigerator door is swung open (running up the dollhouse’s electricity bill and pissing off the doll roommates, I’m sure), and a bong sits abandoned on the living room table. The dollhouse is also full of smaller details: a real Pretty Bitter poster is pinned to the bedroom wall, a second, tinier dollhouse is tucked away in the attic, there’s a wine glass dropped on the kitchen floor, and the album’s title is scrawled on the bathroom wall: Pleaser.

Pleaser is the sophomore album from D.C.’s hometown heroes, Pretty Bitter, a band that I have had the honor of seeing countless times over the years I’ve lived in the city. If there’s one word I would use to describe them, it’s unflinching. There’s a resiliency to their music and a playful stubbornness to their attitude that I have watched them exude in every space they occupy. Their latest release triumphantly carries that confidence as a dreamy pop album that demands to be dissected – a perfect amalgamation of dance rock, synth-driven disco, bubbly ballads, and spunky emo centered around the clarion call of vocalist Mel Bleker.

The Coroner's Song” opens the album with bleak table setting and tragic lyricism, like Bleker’s lingering “I didn’t die to prove something, I just thought that there was more.” One track later, the lead single “Thrill Eater” is where the lyric’s unexpected, and at times grotesque, imagery starts to antagonize the otherwise upbeat sound of the band. Against the pluck of a banjo and the thick strum of a bass, Bleker asks the haunting question, “What happens to a body when it’s scared?” followed by a sharp “What is your ailment, is it fixable in kind?” their voice slicing through the short syllables of “kind.” In the chorus, Bleker promises, “I can be your thrill eater / Broken bone baby  / With a splinter for a spine.” This lyricism is the gravitational center of the album, an instrument of its own as Bleker’s voice cuts through the sparkly and rhythmic sounds of the band, creating a texture of its own.

“Thrill Eater” is also where the title of the album comes into play. Bleker offers to be “your thrill, your pleaser” but begs this subject to “take as much as you want / as long as it’s not mine.” Pleaser is a really charged word. There are some sexual connotations and some pathetic connotations, but I think the first inclination is to think of a missing first word — people. A People Pleaser. In Bleker’s lyricism however, the songs deal primarily in the aftermath, leaving the pleaser without people and reconciling that loss. Time forces the pleaser to move forward alone.

From there, the album shifts into the ethereal “Outer Heaven Dude Ranch,” where Bleker proclaims “Time isn’t a fighter, but it will get its way / I’m getting older every word I say” over Jason Hayes’ endlessly emphatic cymbal crashes. From there, the group keeps the energy high, moving into the similarly relentless beat of “Tommy Deluxe Goes Hollywood,” which blends D.C. post-hardcore guitar feedback with the return of former bandmate Zack Be’s banjo.

If any line has stuck with me, it’s the unimpressed way Bleker sings “If it’s a joke, I didn’t get it” on mid-album cut “Cardiac.” The performance of these consistently raw lyrics varies throughout the album, while some songs use Bleker’s kind voice to undercut the menacing lyrics; other songs, like “Cardiac” or the following “I Hope You Do,” have a very direct and conversational tone. This makes the heart-thumping declarations all the more salient, like on “I Hope You Do,” where the lyrics lay out, “They will make from our ruins a monument, a reminder to ourselves that worship does not keep any temple from falling apart.”

Evan Weiss and Simon Small produced the album, and their co-production shines through the entire project, but especially in the back half as the band’s trademark synth bubbles and bursts through the violent yet fantastical “Bodies Under The Rose Garden,” and the unsuspectingly tragic 90s alt-rock track “Letter To Tracy In Her Bed.” 

While the band has rearranged a bit since the creation of this album, the lineup has solidified with Kira Campbell joining on guitar and Ekko Astral’s Liam Hughes on keyboard; their live shows remain a must-see performance. This summer, Pretty Bitter played both the inaugural Liberation Weekend and returned to Faux to obsessed crowds. When I hear songs like “Textbook,” where each part is so clear, all I can think of is the perfect harmony that the band works in live, each member in lockstep with a contagious smile.

Photo by Bailey Payne

The album ends on an extended leitmotif, “Outer Heaven,” which calls back to its twin “Outer Heaven Dude Ranch.” However, instead of using the refrain “Time isn’t a lover in the way it likes to play / I’m getting older every due I pay” like the initial song, “Outer Heaven” finishes the album on “Time isn’t a bandage / If you send it away / I will not abandon myself today.” This final song feels like stepping out of your own darkness and stretching into the sun. 

I’ve spent a lot of time deciding what this album, something so dense and bright, is about and what it means. I’ve thought about the dollhouse on the cover, something crafted with love, care, and time. I thought about Bleker’s exposed lyrics tied to the band’s dancing beat. I thought about how fuck-you-fun their shows are. And this has brought me to deciding that Pretty Bitter wants you to make that unbreakable promise with them: I will not abandon myself today.


Caro Alt (she/her) is from New Orleans, Louisiana, and if she could be anyone in The Simpsons, she would be Milhouse.

Ozzy Osbourne Withstood the Darkness

Photo by Ross Halfin

In the end, even Ozzy seemed surprised. It wasn’t the crowd — 45,000 people did show up to Villa Park in Birmingham on July 5th for his Back to the Beginning farewell concert, but that’s light work for the Prince of Darkness, who played to a quarter of a million in 1974. It might have been that after decades of arguments and splits and lawsuits and actual fisticuffs, all four members of Black Sabbath were finally sharing a stage again.

But I think it was something even deeper than that. When the marquee rose high above the stage that night, it revealed the godfather of heavy metal seated on an obsidian throne. (Osbourne had been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease some years earlier, impacting his ability to walk.) 

“Let me see those fucking hands!” he cried out to all-consuming cheers. As his eyes bugged out and as he swayed with Tony and Bill and Geezer, I think what astonished him was not that he was there, but that he was at all. That decades after he first laid waste to what Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello called the “hippy, flower-power psychedelia,” he was not only still alive, but able to enjoy the still-flourishing fruits of his labor. 

Just two weeks later, the frontman for Black Sabbath and perhaps the most consequential living figure in rock music passed away surrounded by his family. 

It was not the kind of death that the world expected from him. Millions of inches of column space have been devoted to his on and off-stage antics: eating doves and bats, pissing in record executives’ wineglasses, pissing on a memorial to the Alamo, et cetera et cetera. His long battle with drug and alcohol abuse is also, to put it mildly, well-documented. His first visit to rehab was in 1984, and he appears to have struggled with addiction right up to retirement age, telling Variety that he had relapsed in his early sixties, then quit again around the age of 65.

“I should have been dead 1,000 times,” he said in the interview. “I’m not being big-headed about that, or invincible. It doesn’t take much to kill you.”

Ozzy knew that even before he took up drugs. He’s often described his childhood in industrial Birmingham in the 1960s, which was marked by domestic strife, violence, and poverty. In 2003, he shocked listeners when, in typically frank Ozzy fashion, he disclosed his experiences with sexual abuse.

“Two boys used to wait for me to come home after school. Then they would fuck around with me,” he told the Mirror. “They didn’t fuck me, but they messed about with me. They would force me to drop my pants and all that shit. They felt me and touched me… and it was terrible. The first time it happened was in front of my sister, and that affected me even more. It became a regular thing on the way home from school. It seemed to go on forever."

Ozzy was 11. 

"I was afraid to tell my mother or father,” he said. “My parents would fight a lot, and money was scarce. There were eight of us living in a two-bedroom house. Then that happened and for the rest of my childhood I was forever running with fear.”

It’s still startling to think that fourteen years before #MeToo took hold, a male celebrity spoke about his experiences with sexual assault with that degree of candor. Particularly someone like Ozzy, who built his empire off music that spoke to disaffected, and at times misogynistic and predatory, men. Marilyn Manson, for example, made a video appearance on the Back to the Beginning livestream to profess his love for Ozzy. His inclusion, following multiple allegations of rape and abuse, was a source of confusion and outrage for many fans. 

I don't mean to sympathize with the devil. Ozzy’s associations are weighty. As the center of gravity in the rock universe, any co-sign or even acknowledgement from him translates to clout and money. That those resources would go towards men who (allegedly) choose to abuse others is appalling, regardless of his own experiences. 

I guess what’s been on my mind following Ozzy’s death is how his experiences, in his words, “completely fucked [him] up.” Because what were the options back then for a working-class boy in Birmingham? There weren’t resources for survivors, period. And even if there were, the stigma specifically stalking men and boys who survived sexual abuse likely would have been too great to bear. Even now, in a post-#MeToo landscape, the conversation on male victims usually ends in a punchline.

“When I was a kid, people did not talk about these things like they do now. You didn't have chat shows talking about child molestation,” he said in 2003. "I worked it out with a therapist. But if you have a traumatic experience when you are young, it does fuck you up.”

I doubt it had even occurred to Ozzy at the time that he had been unjustly denied safety, that he deserved recourse. Probably he just folded it into his understanding of the world: people will take advantage of you in the most intimate and barbaric ways, and that’s just how it is. The question — and this is the case, I think, for everyone affected by sexual violence — is how do you make your peace with it?

I wonder if Ozzy ever figured that one out. Beyond sexual violence, he certainly had no shortage of hardship to deal with. He attempted suicide several times as a teen, then fell headlong into drugs and drinking. Even after that interview with the Mirror, he would go on to relapse, which suggests that he didn’t quite “work it out” in therapy. In fact, that question of how to go on seemed to haunt him. Through the decades of altered and muted consciousness, he never took his gaze off the darkness within. 

That fascination both inspired his most creative work and put his life in peril. After he was kicked out of Sabbath in 1979, Ozzy said he took the money from the split and locked himself in a hotel room for three months to do drugs. 

“My thinking was, 'This is my last party, because after this I'm going back to Birmingham and the dole,’” he told Classic Rock.

Ozzy was so certain that this world was not for him — that despite his success, he would eventually be consumed by his own darkness. He was wrong. His greatest power as a musician has always been his ability to sublimate grief and pain into art. I don’t know if Ozzy made peace with his darkness, but I think he did learn that while it’s easy to succumb to it, it’s infinitely more interesting to make something out of it. And if you stick around, you’ll be lucky enough to see what good comes from it. 

Despite it all — despite the drugs, despite the poverty, despite the fear, despite the fights, despite the darkness within — when he mounted that stage, his wide eyes took in all the good. I think Ozzy was surprised by just how good it could be.


Nikolai Mather (he/him) is a writer and musician based in North Carolina. His favorite Ozzy tunes are “Jack the Stripper/Fairies Wear Boots” and the one he did with Miss Piggy. He’s taking a social media break, so reach him at nmather@whqr.org.

Different Parts of the Same Elephant: An Interview With Dustin Hayes of Walter Mitty and His Makeshift Orchestra

Photo by Lisa Johnson

People always say never to meet your heroes, but what if you get to meet your hero twice because you don’t understand how Google Meet works?

It might make you a little tired trying to keep up with everything that singer-songwriter Dustin Hayes is connected to. He cofounded the record label and art collective Making New Enemies, which has released an armful of records alongside a late-night-esque comedy show, a lo-fi surf film, and an annual community collaborative album called Group Picture, currently fourteen iterations deep. Hayes directed and edited a “mumblecore soap opera” short film called Library Card. He’s dabbled in podcasting, blogging, and photography. He’s even been a ping-pong referee.

At the center of this rich, creative universe lies beloved folk-punk band Walter Mitty and His Makeshift Orchestra, as well as its electric, more experimental sibling, Walter Etc., which Dustin founded after Walter Mitty took a hiatus way back in 2015. Since the band’s founding, virtually all of Dustin’s latest musical work has been under the Walter Etc. name, aside from a compilation of Walter Mitty B-sides and oddities in 2019. 

But that all changes with Yikes Almighty, Walter Mitty’s first new album in over ten years. Mixing the DIY acoustic colors characteristic of Walter Mitty with new sounds echoing the experimentation of his Walter Etc. offerings, Yikes Almighty is a soul-searching snapshot of where Dustin is currently in his life. Hayes’ honest songwriting takes on new shapes as his lyrics filter through the sieve of adulthood, yet never lose their poignancy or authenticity. 

After meeting once from the comfort of our own homes and failing to properly record our interview, Dustin was nice enough to meet again for a second interview to talk about the circumstances leading up to Yikes Almighty, the album’s eclectic rollout, spirituality in your early 30s, and what exactly the point of the whole Walter-verse is.


This interview has been edited for clarity and length.

SWIM: Thank you for being so flexible. I’m so sorry that this entire thing happened. Apparently, I don’t know how to work technology, despite what I say on my resume.

DUSTIN: No worries. I would have done the exact same thing. 

SWIM: I was like, oh, yeah, I see a red recording dot! We’re good to go. Realize after the interview that it’s not a recording dot, it’s just letting me know I’m using my microphone. Oh. It’s probably going to be a little bit of a repeat of Monday for the most part. I’m bummed because we had a really good conversation on Monday, but... 

DUSTIN: It’s all good! 

SWIM: What can you do, man. Anyway, how are you doing? 

DUSTIN: Good. This was just reminding me of my ultimate Zoom mistake where I threw an online party for Group Picture. It was the first time I did a Zoom party, and I didn’t realize you can’t just throw the Zoom link out on social media without something happening, so I shared the link on Twitter and I was like, “We’re live now!” And then we got all these bots coming into the chat, and then there’s just porn on the screen. I was like, “Holy shit!” And then they appropriated one of our friends’ usernames, so it looked like our friend was talking in the chat and saying all these terrible things.

SWIM: Dude, that’s so funny. My girlfriend and I have a book club with our friends, and that happened to us too! We don’t even know how this person got in, but they did the same thing. My girlfriend’s sister’s name is Maria, and they joined under “Maria’s iPhone.” So everyone’s like, “Okay, cool, Maria’s here!” They join and they’re just streaming Pornhub, so everyone’s like “Oh my god, what is she doing?!” Then we realize that it’s not her because she actually tried to join after!

DUSTIN: This is the Wild West out here. 

SWIM: I know, honestly, if you’re in a public Zoom, it is the Wild West. So let’s just take it back to square one. Earlier this week, we talked about Yikes Almighty being the first Walter Mitty album in ten years. I want to ask you more about the recording process because before we even knew about this album, you were posting pictures of yourself in a room hitting this triangle-like instrument, showing off toy pianos and all these new sorts of sounds for a Walter Mitty record. How did that come about? What were you going through at the time? Where were you listening to? 

DUSTIN: I don’t know if I really remember exactly what I was listening to, but I was definitely just kind of getting back to my roots in those sounds. The very first Walter Mitty record I had to make in a bedroom because I didn’t have access to anything. I just had an acoustic guitar and random stuff around me. So that’s kind of always been like the home base for me with recording. 

When I was making Yikes Almighty, I didn’t have a home and I went to our drummer Chris’s house out in Denver, so it was kind of just back to square one. I was going around his house looking through things to hit [for percussion]. That’s why I was hitting the pan lid! But then I took it a step further on this album – I went to a thrift store and I bought a bunch of kid’s toys and started messing with those. So I could have, you know, used more real instruments, but the circumstances kind of gave me a “back to the beginning, back to the basics.”

SWIM: Right. Almost like a full circle, in a sense. 

DUSTIN: Yeah, exactly. A little full circle as far as the production and where I was at in life. 

SWIM: I feel like... in some ways, this is kind of a full-circle Walter Mitty album. For example, the last track on Yikes Almighty is “101 S.” I think a lot of listeners, especially if they’ve been Walter Heads for a long time, they’re going to notice that title right away: “101 N” is one of your most popular songs. Are those two connected?

DUSTIN: There’s definitely a connection for me, like, in my head and life, but I think musically or lyrically… “101 S” is not a continuation of “101 N.” I guess the vibes behind them are kind of similar. “101 N” was about leaving home when I was a kid in Orange County and moving out for my first time when I was eighteen and being scared and excited and hitting the road and taking the 101 North Freeway into the Great Unknown. Then “101 S” is from my thirties when I left my life in Ventura and I moved south to LA, and it also felt like leaving it all behind, going into the Great Unknown. This was the unknown of Los Angeles and a life with no job and no home, no partner and no band or… anything. I was just living out of my truck in LA. “101 S” just made sense because it was the same exact feeling as “101 N” of going off into the great unknown in a new moment of life, but this was the reverse of the original. So yeah, they’re pretty spiritually connected. In my head, it’s like yin and yang, but to a random listener, it’s probably just another song. [Laughs]

SWIM: I love that. I want to circle back to the treasure hunt album rollout. It’s just such a badass idea! I remember you talking briefly about an author that was a huge source of inspiration for it?

DUSTIN: It was really a confluence of things, but there was this author named Forrest Fenn who had a treasure- I’ve never read Forrest Fenn or anything, I just know the lore- but he had a treasure with these Native American artifacts, Spanish gold, and very valuable things worth over a million dollars then buried it in the Rocky Mountains. He just left a poem that was the treasure map to find it, and it was a big deal… I think there’s a Netflix documentary about it? 

So my dad told me about that, and he would always joke that we should go find the treasure! [Laughs] I always thought it was super sick. So the idea was in my head, like, I want to do something like that one day! And then my friend Sarah was telling me about a sculptor she knows who buries their sculptures in the desert for people to dig up. And I was like, that’s the coolest, most romantic thing I’ve ever heard. So when I heard Sarah tell me that, it reminded me of the Fenn treasure and it all kind of just clicked in my head. I was like, “Oh, I have to bury an album one day!” And then I was like, “I’m just going to bury my next album because life is short,” you know? 

SWIM: I mean, there’s no better time than the present, right? 

DUSTIN: Exactly. 

SWIM: Does that whole idea have anything to do with the name Yikes Almighty? I feel like that sounds something like finding something or some sort of adventure, but maybe one where you don’t like what you find.

DUSTIN: I love that. I love that. They don’t have any literal connection, but energetically, it felt the same. I had the name Yikes Almighty before the treasure hunt really got underway, so they didn’t really have anything to do with each other. Yikes Almighty is just jumping off and taking a big risk and just going for something, even if it’s messy or doesn’t make sense right away, and just trusting your gut and going for it. So the essence of the treasure hunt is very much in line with that same philosophy. 

SWIM: I love it, dude, it’s such an interesting idea. I had never heard of anything like it, and you’re giving me all these references that have already been done. Last time we talked, we discussed writing and how you had wanted to write about your touring adventures and all that fun stuff, but one thing I wanted to check in on is watercolor painting! Are you still a painter? 

Dustin [Laughs] Definitely goes in phases, you know. It’ll go in phases where I’ll do a bunch at once and then stop for like months. I recently did this thing for the album [holds up a water color illustration themed around ‘Yikes Almighty’]. But besides that, I haven’t really been watercoloring too much. I’ll get back into it, though. I’d like to. 

SWIM: Yeah, I’d imagine you got a lot coming up, so I get if it’s not, you know, the primary goal right now to become a watercolor artist. I just wanted to know because I remember you posted this funny story on Patreon about how you came into contact with this watercolor artist. Was it Craigslist? Or am I getting it confused with something else? 

DUSTIN: It was! 

SWIM: [Laughs] That’s so random. That’s so cool, though. I miss Craigslist so much. Well, I mean, I guess it’s still there, but like when it was, you know… before Offer Up and all those apps and stuff. 

DUSTIN: Yeah, it’s not quite as active anymore. But you know how it is. I have a lot of things I wish I could pursue and get good at, but I don’t even try! I always get sidetracked and start making more music.

SWIM: I know, it’s hard to find time. I mean, speaking of busy schedules, I know you have the Taxpayers tour coming up, and I know we talked about the Apes of the State show happening in LA in October, and you just wrapped up your solo living room tour. How is the touring experience on your own compared to touring with a band?

DUSTIN: Oh, it’s so different. Some quick pros and cons: On the solo tour, it’s like, I have all day. It’s just my own schedule. You don’t have to show up as early when it’s just you on an acoustic guitar, you know? I was going to skate parks and surfing and posting up in a park and just playing guitar or reading and it was so chill. Then after the show, I’m just getting in the car. I don’t have a lot of money, so I was just sleeping in my car. In Santa Rosa, I was like, ‘I guess I’m just going to drive out to the coast tonight and sleep in Bedego Bay and wake up on the NorCal coast and look for waves.’ 

But after a show, good or bad, it’s just… everyone kind of leaves, and then I’m just like, “Oh, all right!’ There’s not really anyone to hang with at the end of the night, and I’m just alone in the car, just with my thoughts. It’s so lonely! I don’t have a bandmate to be like, “How was your night?” You’re truly alone. Pros and cons with a band… It’s fun to share the excitement and the adventure with your friends, but it’s a lot easier to travel and do logistical things as a solo person. 

SWIM: Yeah, I can imagine. There’s so much logistics, and especially considering how expensive it is now to tour… I can only imagine how much of a pain in the ass it is to just coordinate everything with everybody. 

DUSTIN: Yeah, that’s true, too. Money-wise, it’s actually feasible alone. It’s not as a band. And then you’re thinking about where we are going to stay? Are we getting a hotel? But hanging out with my old friends, the bandmates, is just invaluable. 

SWIM: It’s priceless.

DUSTIN: Right. I can’t put a dollar on it.

Photo by Ricardo Campos Molina

SWIM: I know we kind of talked about “101 S” earlier, but I really want to go back to the lyrics on this album because you’re such a great lyricist, and the first thing I want to talk about is that spiritual tinge that we touched on a little bit on Monday. I remember you saying that you’re not a born-again Christian or anything like that, but there is definitely a little bit of spirituality on this record. Going back to the older Walter Mitty records, there are lines like “Now it’s God that thinks that I don’t actually exist” and “This is why pseudo-intellectual tells us that we need our vices.” It felt like you were kind of turning away from that sort of idea, but in this record, you say, ‘I’m talking to, you know, girls that are smarter than me and I’m trying to convince them that there’s a higher purpose.’ There’s a very distinct shift into “maybe there is some truth to all this spiritual stuff?” and you’re trying to show others that. 

DUSTIN: Totally. I definitely haven’t become a Christian or joined any organized religion, but I think there’s more room for it in my life now. It’s funny because I feel like with younger kids now God is kind of cool, but when I was younger God was very uncool. If you were alternative and into punk music, you were against the church and organized religion and all of that dogma. 

SWIM: Yeah. They’d call you a poser if they found out you went to church!

DUSTIN: Exactly, yeah. And not that that’s right or wrong, but, yeah, that’s where I was coming from when I was younger, like 19 to 25 or whatever. It was pushing away any sort of spirituality or religion and not accepting it. And as I’ve grown older, there really is a place for this. It kind of turned from a philosophy of “everything’s meaningless” to “yes, everything’s meaningless, but we create our own reality- whatever meaning you put into that void is actually going to have meaning.” So it’s not meaningless! It’s just a customized spiritual, meaningful existence you create for yourself. 

So that’s where I feel like this new album is coming from, philosophically. A little more of allowing myself to feel love and not just being cynical. Like “love’s just a trick we play on ourselves.” Now it’s more allowing myself to believe in that or allowing myself to think about a higher power and assign myself a higher purpose. So there definitely is a spiritual, philosophical evolution between Old Walter and New Walter. I think it’s just a little less angsty and young and a little more calm and confident in the chaos. 

SWIM: Right. And I think you said you’ve given yourself grace to accept that love for yourself and others, which I love for you, and I think it makes perfect sense. We’re almost the same age. I feel like I’ve also gone through more of an acceptance or more of an open mind to that stuff. We almost had the same exact character arc [Laughs]. I was also like “fuck religion! Church sucks!” I was probably very insufferable, but that’s part of growing up. 

DUSTIN: It’s part of growing up, yeah.

Walter Etc. backyard show in Long Beach, CA. Photo by Nickolas Sackett.

SWIM: Speaking of growing up, there’s one thing that really surprised me listening to this record: you make a lot of references to having children in this record.

DUSTIN: Damn. That’s probably true. [Laughs]

SWIM: Do you want children?

DUSTIN: Theoretically, yeah. 

SWIM: Have you become more open to that as you’ve gotten older?

DUSTIN: Well, I was never against having kids. I would love to have kids. I love kids. Yeah. I love kids. Always have. I haven’t had a lot of jobs throughout my life, but I have always been nannying and babysitting and teaching. But it’s more a matter of if I can have some more stability and money and stuff like that. You know what I mean? 

SWIM: Yeah, I know. I totally understand.

DUSTIN: And then there’s the whole, ‘is it ethical to bring a kid into a dying world?’ but that’s a whole other conversation. But kids are awesome. How about you? 

SWIM: It’s funny you ask that because, again, same character arc- I was not really for having kids because of the whole ethical dilemma, and also my childhood experience of not really knowing my dad. But I’ve gotten older. I’ve been working at the same school for about five years, and the fifth graders who were promoted to sixth grade this year were in first grade when I started. So it was very strange seeing these students for five years and watching them grow and become their own persons and go through shit and see their wins and their losses. It just made me see how important children are and how wonderful they are. As I’ve gotten older, I see the allure of having a family of your own and having that chance to create a little person who has their own thoughts and feelings in the world. For them to carry the torch, but not in some weird patriarchal way. They’re like an artwork, you know? 

DUSTIN: For sure. 

SWIM: I struggled with the same things: bringing a child into the dying world, stability, all that fun stuff. But definitely stuck out to me on the album because I don’t think I’ve ever heard you sing about children. I want to circle back to this Patreon post you made about people having this preconstructed idea of Dustin based on your songs. You shared that this is a source of discomfort when people act like they know who you are based on the songs you write, or they have this very clear idea of who you are before they even get a chance to actually talk to you. Does that still affect you?

DUSTIN: I don’t want to overplay it. It’s not like I’m famous or something [Laughs]. But in my direct life, with friends and family, for sure. The first few Walter albums, there was just literally no one listening to us, you know? Maybe some friends, but my parents weren’t really listening, and I could just kind of say whatever. There weren’t any consequences in my real life, so I developed this personal, artistic philosophy where I’m really writing about my life and being super honest and vulnerable and… sometimes very specific in these songs. 

There’s a divide between the world of Walter and the world of Dustin, but the songs are usually like 90% true to my life and like 10% poetic license. But as time has gone on and more friends and family have become fully aware of the band, they’ve accepted it as, ‘This is what Dustin does!’ I know they’re going to hear stuff when I release it, and it does create more of a block or an obstacle, so I have to just be a little bit reckless and kind of trick myself while I’m writing things and be like “okay, I never actually have to release this or show it to anybody just so I can write it as purely and honestly and true to what I want.” Then I decide later if I’m going to release it, and once I like it, I’m just like, ‘fuck it,’ and I release it. [Laughs] 

But then I deal with the consequences in my life, like people get mad at me or get confused about things, uncomfortable. And they assume because my songs are so literal and raw that they just assume everything is 100% true, so if there’s a little bit of fictionalizing or poetic license taken here and there in a song, it’s taken as 100% fact. It’s just a funny life I’ve chosen for myself, but ultimately, I still have that mission to be as pure, honest, raw, and prolific of an artist in my lifetime as I can be. It’s still my number one priority and value, so I’m just sticking to it, and everything else can come second.

SWIM: Take it to the chin, like we said last time!

DUSTIN: [Laughs] Yeah, that’s what we were saying. Yeah, take it to the chin. Be brave and keep it going. 

SWIM: Love it, dude. I think that’s a pretty noble goal to have in a creative life. 

DUSTIN: I don’t know if it is, though. Is it? I don’t know. I feel like it is. I don’t know what people’s goals are. 

SWIM: I guess that goes back to the meaning you crave for yourself, right? 

DUSTIN: It is! That’s true.

SWIM: All right, I just have the last question that I asked you last time. I brought up this whole concept that many artists have talked about in the past. I know James Baldwin is probably the most famous example of this quote; he says something along the lines that he’s essentially writing the same story over and over and over again, but he’s just adding a different perspective on it. I feel like you’ve also touched on that briefly in your music. In “Um” from Always Leaving, you say, “the same chord progressions, but my lyrics were better back then.” What is Walter’s story, and do you think you’re constantly writing it and rewriting it? 

DUSTIN: Yeah. It’s a really interesting thought. I used to think - I think I still think this, but I’ve kind of lost the thread on this theory. There was a time I felt really strongly that all art is about the same thing. Like everyone’s art is about the same thing. If you zoom out far enough, it’s all trying to say the same thing and kind of describing different parts of the same elephant. So speaking just for all Walter songs, that same zooming out and describing different parts of the same elephant is true. I can’t, or any other writer, can’t get out of themselves. Everything is their own experience. So whether you’re writing about yourself or writing about other people, you’re ultimately writing about your experience of the world. 

I feel all Walter’s songs are about this journey through life, and maybe the elephant is the timeline of life as we experience it, and each song is describing a little chunk of that Walter timeline. Ultimately, at least in Walter’s songs, the writing is about struggles with mental health and knowing yourself. And then knowing how to deal with yourself and relationships with other people and how to deal with people. And then the third conflict is usually with the world and society and how to stay sane and make your life in the crazy, chaotic, crumbling world. So yeah, I think all Walter’s songs are kind of just about life’s journey for me.

SWIM: I love that, dude. You’re very existential. Have you read existential philosophy before? 

DUSTIN: [Laughs] Not really.

SWIM: Really? That’s surprising. Because earlier you talked about creating your own meaning, and that’s the core tenet of existentialist philosophies. Existence precedes essence, which means you have to create; you’re not born with a meaning, you create your own meaning. And then you’re talking about this mingling of Self with the Other and all that.

DUSTIN: That’s funny. Well, I mean, I listen to some philosophy podcasts and I’ve read some books and stuff, but it’s not like I’m a philosopher or something, you know? 

SWIM: I mean, you kind of are, in some sense. Aren’t we all? 

Thank you guys so much. I can’t thank you guys enough for being so flexible. 

LIZZIE: Yeah, all good! 

DUSTIN: Lizzie, you’ve been here the whole time?!

LIZZIE: [Laughs] Yeah, I was. I’ve been, you know, answering emails at the same time.

DUSTIN: I hope you had us muted. I am embarrassed to know you’ve been listening.

[Everyone laughs] 

SWIM: Thank you so much. I hope you guys enjoy the rest of your week. Thank you, Dustin! It was great. It’s a dream come true to talk to you, twice even. 

DUSTIN: No, it was fun. I hope to talk to you again on a show or something!

SWIM: I’m definitely planning on seeing you guys with Apes of the State. So hopefully, I’ll be able to say what’s up.

DUSTIN: Perfect. You should reach out!

SWIM: All right! You guys take care. Thank you guys. 

EVERYONE: Bye-bye!

The recording has stopped


Nickolas is an artist based in Southern California. Described by a beloved elementary teacher as an “absolute pleasure to have in class,” his work wrestles with the conflict between privacy and self-expression in the digital age. You can find him shitposting on Twitter @DjQuicknut and on Instagram @sopranos_on_dvd_.

Greet Death – Die In Love | Album Review

Deathwish Inc.

As an artist, there are seemingly two paths you can go down after your first couple of records: either you shake things up and go in a new direction, or you become more of who you are. When you try something new, you take the risk of falling flat on your face after taking too big of a swing, but you also might connect and break through to an entirely new audience. When you refine yourself, you hazard turning your work into a trite carbon copy of itself, but you also might succeed in adding layers of nuance to your art. Flint, Michigan’s Greet Death opts for the latter on their third album, Die In Love, tinkering with their established gloomgaze sound by folding in new elements and enhancing what was already there.

On their debut, Dixieland, co-lead singers and songwriters Logan Gaval and Harper Boyhtari were making loud and lean songs that alternated between hard-charging alternative rock and dour slowcore. 2019’s masterwork New Hell saw the addition of Jim Versluis on drums and was a focused improvement on Dixieland as the songs were longer, heavier, and most importantly, shreddier. New Low, the rare EP that’s vital to a band’s discography, contains elements that range from Neil Young-esque country (harmonica included!) to speedy, sometimes radio-friendly shoegaze. 

But it’s not just in their sound that Greet Death has changed, in the time since New Hell, they’ve grown from a three-piece to a gang of five adding Jackie Kalmink, who serves a dual roles as bassist and producer, as well as Eric Beck on guitar, resulting in a richer sound and fuller approach to their music. It’s also important to mention that, in the time since their last release, Harper Boyhtari came out as trans, making it impossible not to recognize how both she and the band are growing more comfortable in their skin. And now, Die In Love finds the band deepening their craft, resulting in their most balanced effort and an album that displays all of their talents in equal measure. 

Right out of the gates, Greet Death send a message with the title track “Die In Love,” a fantastic blend of shoegaze sirens and indie pop which finds Logan Gaval stating the album’s intent loud and clear, “Find someone, die in love.” In the past, labeling this band as “misanthropic” would not have been much of a stretch, given songs like “I Hate Everything” and “You’re Gonna Hate What You’ve Done,” but with this album, Gaval and Boyhtari are now exploring the bliss of love. Don’t get me wrong, there’s still plenty of their trademark misery, but their new stance on life is “we’re all gonna die, might as well love someone before I do.” Boyhtari closes the album with a similar sentiment on the tender acoustic ballad “Love Me When You Leave.” Like many of Boyhtari’s best songs, the track is built around vivid characters; people grappling with the uncertainty of life, what they wish to make of it, and whether or not any of this is really worth it. Ultimately, the song’s conclusion is a simple but bold request as she sings, “Leave a sign for me / love me when you leave.” Regardless of how this all shakes out, keep me in your heart and cherish the memories we share.

Greet Death has always peddled in life’s ugliness, but on Die In Love, they're highlighting the fact that for life to be ugly, it must also be beautiful. On the sexually charged simp anthem, aptly titled “Red Rocket,” Gaval brings new meaning to wanting to be someone’s dog by capturing the feeling of being so horny that you might die, listing the macabre desires of climaxing. If telling someone “I could bring your fork to socket” isn’t romantic, then I don’t know what is. 

Boyhtari’s richly detailed “Country Girl” sidesteps the sentimentality of nostalgia in favor of the melancholy present in the past. Throughout the song, she combs through memories, picking out images of death like burnt churches alongside the comforts of seeing horror movies in the theater. Then, there’s the lead single, “Same But Different Now,” a five-minute ripper where the group displays some of their pummeling material to date. The track crescendos to an incendiary mix of charging riffs as Gaval shrieks, “We’re different now.” It’s a fascinating moment in the band’s discography because it holds the glowering moods present in much of their work, but they’re also pushing their sound into the red, culminating in something that resembles the more aggro side of Foo Fighters’ rawest songs.

Even though Boyhtari and Gaval trade vocals between songs, it is clear that Greet Death is a cohesive unit. When their two voices entwine on the final minutes of the record, there’s a beautiful sense of balance and completion. You realize that, ever since their first release almost a decade ago, even after all the sonic pivots and lineup shifts, Greet Death has always been these two people coming together to create something beautiful and crushing and honest. As the band has expanded physically and sonically, their sense of self has only become more realized. On each passing release, the band grows with intentionality, and on Die In Love, they have achieved their purest form yet by being true to who they are.


Connor is an English professor in the Bay Area, where he lives with his partner and their cat and dog, Toni and Hachi. When he isn’t listening to music or writing about killer riffs, Connor is reading fiction and obsessing over sports.

Swimming Abroad: International Music Roundup

To quote Frank Reynolds, “you have to be a real low-life piece of shit to get involved in politics.” I think the same thing applies to being overly patriotic, especially now, as the United States Government proudly rolls out our very own concentration camp and revokes healthcare for millions upon millions of its own citizens. Shit’s fucked in every direction, so Independence Day doesn’t feel like a whole lot to celebrate. 

To me, the Fourth of July begins and ends with barbequing hot dogs, drinking some beers, and jumping in the pool, and guess what? I did all that shit yesterday. While last year we had a fun BBQ music roundup on the Fourth, this year we thought the holiday might be a fun excuse to highlight some of our favorite music projects from other countries. 

Please enjoy the music, please celebrate responsibly, and please consider the role we all play in this. 


baan – neumann

Self-released

The universality of music is one of the most beautiful things about humanity. A sound can be shaped in Philadelphia, and years later, a band from Namibia has made it their entire style. When it comes to heavy music, some of the most incredible records made often lie outside of American audiences’ line of sight; however, within the internet era, we are seeing a globalization of art that rocks at unprecedented levels in human history. Enter baan from Busan, South Korea—a band as heavy and thunderous as they are deft and talented. neumann is a journey–nine tracks with entire realms existing within them. In an era where playlists and short-form songs are championed across the music industry, an album that offers depth AND patience can feel very rare, especially when it can actually alter your perception of time. There were more than a few times where a song on neumann felt like a meditative 15 minutes when it really was less than that, or conversely, felt over in moments for tracks that ran over six minutes. An album that, whether it likes it or not, is as thoroughly about the act of listening as it is about the haunting abstraction of being alive in modern times, baan’s first release is dense, heady, and a prime example of how musicians outside of the states are just as worthy of our curiosity and attention as any here at home.
– Elias Amini


Sport – In Waves 

La Tête d’Ampoule

The “Midwest” part of “Midwest Emo Revival” really has nothing to do with geography. It’s a holdover from the second wave of emo, known simply as “Midwest Emo,” which happened mostly in the 90s. Back then, a lot of popular acts really were from the heartland (also a lot weren’t, but hey, the name stuck). In the late 2000s and throughout the 2010s, that sound was revived by bands from all over, including those outside the US. Between 2011 and 2016, Sport cooked up three emo albums from Lyon, France. Even an ocean away, they brought every bit the same energy, talent, and quintessential sound as bands like Algernon Cadwallader and Glocca Morra—and after nine years, they’re back with another. 

In Waves is aptly named. Each song swells, crests, crashes, and regathers itself in troughs of lingering reminiscence. Their sound is full-bodied, with gang vocals punching through walls of angular riffs, twinkling arpeggiations, and dynamic percussion. Though they skew towards math rock, Sport is unmistakably emo. Between the poetic verses and impressive wordplay, you can hear the mourning of days gone by and anxiety for the future. At the same time, you hear catharsis, conviction, and a passion for life. 

Sport’s 4th album is for every emo enjoyer; it expands on themes from previous albums and breathes new life into their discography. In a recent interview, Sport says they picked their name because it’s the same in most languages. This global mindset has paid off, rekindling the flame of Midwest Emo abroad and exemplifying the benefits of seeking inspiration beyond your own borders.
– Braden Allmond


Whispers – Yom-Ma-Lok

Flatspot Records

I personally and bravely believe that the best way to experience hardcore punk music is to see it live. I don’t think anyone has discoursed about this yet, but I’ll give it time. My point is that while I had heard about the release of Yom-Ma-Lok at the buzzer of 2024 (and read a Stereogum comment summarizing it as a “yuletide ass kicking”) nothing could have prepared me for the swaggering way Whispers took the stage at Black Cat a couple months ago. At the first cymbal crash, the whole room was suddenly engulfed in the sound, drenched in their self-described “Bangkok Evilcore,” like when the air gets sucked out right before there’s an explosion. Every molecule of oxygen in the room was reverberating with their metallic sprawl and pounding with crushing blast beats. 

Whispers, a very kickass crew from Thailand, released their latest EP, Yom-Ma-Lok, in December, a relatively long project with features from members of Kickback, Demonstration of Power, and hardcore’s it boys, Speed. There’s a certain magnitude to it, an ascension, as the band oscillates between brawling beatdowns and sweaty anthems. The EP relentlessly pummels the listener, but when I saw it live, the listeners pummeled each other back.

I would also be remiss not to mention that, as of today, my favorite Mancunian lads are back. That’s right, unless the Gallaghers have called it quits between the editing and publishing of this piece, Oasis should be taking the stage in a couple of hours. I’m feelin’ Supersonic mates.
– Caro Alt


racecarbed – bozo

AboutTime Records

In an effort to continually prove myself to be the most esoteric woman at any gathering, I will spend untold time going on musical deep dives online. Call it pretentious, but that’s showbiz, baby! That’s music journalism! That’s my RIGHT! Thus, in the spirit of my deep love for underground music, I would like to bring bozo by racecarbed to everyone’s immediate attention. I may be pretentious, but I’m not a gatekeeper. racecarbed is an artist and producer based in Ireland, creating incredibly delightful music across the pond that has made its way to my ears. If you enjoy hyperpop, noise, emo, digicore, and random sampling, boy, are you in for a treat. If you don’t enjoy any of those things, why are you here? Why are you reading this? Why are you looking at me like that? Go listen to racecarbed anyway! One of my favorite tracks from bozo, “Family Guy Funny Moments” is a painfully honest song, uncomfortably juxtaposed against - you guessed it - a sample of Family Guy. A beautiful and rather heart-wrenching synth melody immediately follows, causing emotional whiplash that is jarring in all the right ways. The shift from Peter Griffin to an evocative riff is, as it turns out, a bit of a shock. While the hyperpop genre often runs the risk of becoming overwhelming and too noisy, racecarbed exercises just enough restraint in his writing to create skillfully balanced digital masterpieces. Anyways, it’s time for you to leave me alone - I’m at the function reading Infinite Jest.
– Britta Joseph


Subsonic Eye – Singapore Dreaming

Topshelf Records

The title for Subsonic Eye’s fifth album, Singapore Dreaming, telegraphs pretty clearly exactly what you’re going to get. Press play on the opening track “Aku Cemas,” and you’re in for 30 minutes of dreamy, overly-saturated rock music straight from Singapore. It’s a consistently pretty album; colorful and well-constructed is the default baseline, even when the band is singing in Malay. By the time the band launches into the riff one track later on “Why Am I Here,” you’re already firmly situated in indie rock heaven. As the purple, yellow, and red from the cover bleed together, everything shifts into focus, then back out. Listening to an album like this feels like eating a good hearty meal; you walk away with every need met.
– Taylor Grimes


Crayon Cats – Songs About You! #2 

Self-released

There is nothing I love more in the world than an earnestly cute jangly pop-punk band, and no one is doing it better than Crayon Cats on Songs About You! #2. The band, who hail from Jakarta, Indonesia, nailed this sound on the first entry of this EP series back in September 2024, but on #2, Crayon Cats have even sharper songs and starker dynamics. The ramshackle pop-punk laments of “October Girlfriend” are juxtaposed with the hazier, dreamier side of indie pop on “Hospital Hopper.” The latter track is competing with “Not The Best Day” from their EP for the title of my favorite Crayon Cats song, in large part because of how brilliantly the band lets the song comedown. After two minutes of exemplifying the fear that builds while accompanying a loved one to the hospital in an emergency, the guitars crack into a vacuum cleaner whir until it all crashes down and ebbs out. In that comedown of fading distortion and reverb, the band captures what it’s like to sit in the hallway waiting for the results. After two sets of Songs About You!, I will continue to listen to any other songs Crayon Cats have to about you.
– Lillian Weber


Mantar – Post Apocalyptic Depression

Metal Blade

When I discovered German metal duo Mantar this year, there were two things I found completely unfathomable: first, that they weren’t an obscure ‘70s occult rock group based on their simple yet fantastic logo, and second, that I hadn’t discovered them until this year. The band feels like they were concocted in a lab just for me, scratching my deep itches of other two-piece sludge metal bands like Big Business or Eagle Twin, albeit with a more direct psychedelic lean. Post Apocalyptic Depression could be the best album title of 2025, if it didn’t feel like our collective depression was more mid-apocalyptic, but it’s at least refreshing that the songs therein are nothing short of badass stoner punk’n’roll, well-suited for fans of other underground European metal acts like Kvelertak or Barren Womb. Lead single and album closer “Cosmic Abortion” (again, these guys really know how to make a great title), its lo-fi, space-trip music video, and chorus lyrics, “KILL, DESTROY, FUCK SHIT UP” made Mantar an instant sell for me, with Post Apocalyptic Depression becoming one of my earliest favorite albums of 2025.
– Logan Archer Mounts


Spirit Desire – Pets

Maraming Records

With a decade of indie emo tunes under their belt, Spirit Desire have little to prove to anyone anymore. Pets is the band’s first release in a few years, a ten-minute offering comprised of three absolutely knockout songs and one instrumental interlude. While the opener, “Dead Pets,” is a great introduction that dives directly into the title at hand, it’s the propulsive “IDFC” that reveals itself as the true standout. The Toronto group offers a complimentary and affirmative palate cleanser with “It Is What It Is,” sending listeners off with some well-wishes until our paths converge again. The whole release is tender, open-hearted, catchy, energetic, and earnest; pound-for-pound, one of the best things I’ve heard all year, with not a second wasted. For as many ideas and riffs and harmonies as Spirit Desire have been able to pack in these ten minutes, I think you’d be hard-pressed to find a better EP in the rock music sphere.
– Taylor Grimes


The Tubs – Cotton Crown 

Trouble In Mind Records

I am once again asking for your listening support of UK’s jangle pop quartet all-stars, The Tubs. I recently saw their show live and in color in Chicago, which has further solidified my aspirations to be treasurer of their soon-to-be-created fan club. Cotton Crown is packed to the brim with energetic, uptempo guitar strokes to circumvent the melancholy, glum lyrics of vocalist Owen Williams. Throughout The Tubs’ sophomore album, Williams’ deep, love-scorned voice is a soothing siren that comforts you while he spills his guts out about lost relationships and the tragic, untimely death of his mother. Each song is a fascinating case study in successfully masking the deeply personal lyrics of Williams, which often venture into darkness with a bright, sunny disposition of music. “Chain Reaction” and “Illusion” surf on nonstop tidal waves of jangle pop guitar strings. Cotton Crown doesn’t have a dull moment in its brief twenty-nine-minute runtime. The Tubs have the energy of an early 2000s Four Loko with the passion of a grief-stricken poet, making this an instant favorite of mine. 
– David Williams