Embracing The Chaos: An Interview With Laveda
/Photo by Mars Alba
New York City is known as “The City of Dreams” for the hundreds of thousands that relocate there every year with grand aspirations in an even grander city. New York itself has enough main character energy for a whole coastline, making it the ideal setting for an artist. From the hustle and bustle of the people on the streets to the blinding glow of a subway car and the peeled-off paint of a tenement building, inspiration is abundant at all hours of the day. Falling in love with NYC is as easy as acquiring a late-night slice at Joe’s Pizza.
Enter Laveda, a noisy rock band fronted by Ali Genevich (guitar, bass, synths, vocals) and Jacob Brooks (guitar, bass, synths, vocals). What started out as a project between the two of them in the winter of 2018 evolved into something bigger as they realized the momentum was building. In 2022, with hopes to solidify their sound, Laveda enlisted Dan Carr (bass, guitar) and Joe Taurone (drums) for assistance on their sophomore effort. The resulting album, A Place You Grew Up In, was full of lush, warm soundscapes which felt like an ode to their upstate New York, Albany roots.
The following year, Genevich and Brooks made the jump to migrate a couple of hours south to New York City. The ceaseless energy of their new home inspired their third studio record, Love, Darla. The two were influenced to create new music by the things they would hear on the streets: the clattering of subway cars, screeching of metal on construction sites, and distant sirens. There was never a dull moment in their world or their music.
The songs on Love, Darla have a scrappy chaos within them. The introductory “Care” starts with just a minute of guitar reverb that sounds like grinding metal, then morphs into a dissonant, energetic banger. “Cellphone” has a gentle, melodic, head-bobbing slacker rock appeal with rebellious kiss-off lyrics. The songs come with a real bite to them, but also have a melodic flow that makes them rewarding to revisit, just like Sonic Youth and countless New York bands of yore. Laveda is now about constant movement. Gone is the quiet, suburban life of northeast New York; in its place is the eruptive energy of the city that never sleeps.
I sat down with Ali Genevich and Jacob Brooks via Zoom to talk about moving to the city, getting inspired by live music, and Tim Burton.
Photo by Mars Alba
This interview has been edited for clarity and length.
SWIM: I read that you moved from Albany to New York City in 2023. What inspired that move?
ALI: We had wanted to move to New York for a while, the timing just wasn’t right for us with COVID. Once things were opening back up again, we started doing a lot of gigging and touring. I feel like we were busy in the local scene, just trying to build up our presence as a band upstate. Eventually, I think we reached a point where it felt like we had sort of outgrown the scene there and wanted to surround ourselves with more like-minded musicians and a new community. The scene sort of died out with COVID and my college shutting down. Unfortunately, it took a big hit. Not to say we wanted to abandon it, but we also had always wanted to come to New York, so the timing just felt right when we made the move in 2023.
SWIM: Were you able to adapt quickly to New York City, or did it take some time to settle in?
ALI: I think it was a little of both. I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of people we already knew when we first got here, so in some ways, it was easier for us to move here than a different city. If we were to move to somewhere that we’ve never been, like Texas, we just don’t know people in those cities, but we had a lot of friends who already lived in New York City, so it was really nice. It was just cool to have people to hang out with, bring you out to things, and show you the cool venues and bars and all that jazz.
SWIM: Is there a difference between creating music in Albany as opposed to New York? Can you feel a difference?
ALI: Yeah, definitely. I’m very inspired by my environment, and New York is a lot different than Albany or Troy, just much more industrial, and there’s so much more noise and energy, and people are surprising you every day. There’s always an interaction that you don’t expect you’re going to have, and it’s really awesome. I think Albany and Upstate are just so much slower-paced, and sometimes you can go about your day without really even talking to anyone at all. That’s interesting to me. I think a lot of the griminess of New York City has found its way into our music for sure, into this new record. It definitely contributed a lot to a sonic shift that was already happening in our sound – New York kind of drove the nail further into the coffin, I guess.
SWIM: I hear that griminess in “I Wish” and “Care,” and it reminds me of mid-to-late ‘80s Sonic Youth. Were they like an inspiration for you? What’s your relationship with them?
ALI: Yeah, I’ve always loved Sonic Youth, but I think I found a new appreciation for their music when we moved here because I just read Kim Gordon’s book, Girl in a Band. I picked it up at Powell’s Books in Portland, Oregon, and I started reading it on tour. It was super relatable, and I was like, ‘Well this would be a good time to dive deeper into Sonic Youth’s music after we moved here,’ because I had just finished the book at that time.
It took me, like, two years to read it because I put books down constantly and pick them back up again. But yeah, then I started listening to their first record, second record, third record, all that, just from the beginning, because Kim had referenced so many different eras in her life, you know? I wanted to have a better idea of what she was talking about, so I just got really into it and eventually was like, wait, these records are some of the best records. I’d only heard some of their more popular stuff, and now some of the random deeper cuts are some of my favorite tracks. They’re an incredible band.
SWIM: Do you have a favorite album from Sonic Youth?
ALI: I think Sister is probably my favorite.
SWIM: Sister, that’s a good one. I love that album cover.
ALI: Yeah, it’s just, it’s got such a mood, and I’m a sucker for just feeling nostalgic all the time. It really does evoke that emotion in me. But they have a lot of great records. I mean, honestly, what am I forgetting? Goo, that’s it! I feel like that’s a more popular record, but also pretty undeniably awesome.
SWIM: I read that you guys workshoped “Strawberry” and “Heaven” during live shows. I think that’s really cool. It reminds me of a comedian going to a club just to see what jokes work, trying to add them into their set. How did you decide to workshop these songs together at live shows?
JACOB: At the time, those were our only two new ones, really. I think we had started “Heaven” first. We also had “Tim Burton’s Tower” in our back pocket and “Cellphone” as well, but we weren’t really ready to flesh those out yet.
ALI: Yeah, I think we knew that those songs were too challenging. We just didn’t know what they were gonna sound like yet. We felt “Strawberry” and “Heaven” were just strong. They had really solid foundations, so it made sense to take those out, play them, and just sort of see how they evolved.
I don’t think the songs fundamentally changed a lot, but it was more the energy that we had when we played them and the little nuances. Things like figuring out what pedals sound good for a certain section of the song and what buzz tone I wanted. For Joe, I feel like the drum part really solidified itself over the course of a month. He would try some new fills here and there just to experiment because we had the time to. I sang the song completely differently in the demo than I ended up singing it on the record. The end result is completely different. If you heard the demo, you’d be like, ‘Oh, wow, this is a very different voice and character.’ I think that also inspired a lot of the other songs and the singing on the rest of the record. Finding the right style of singing wasn’t challenging, but it definitely took some time to figure out.
SWIM: Did you notice a crowd reaction to a certain part of the song, like ‘oh, they seemed to be drawn to this, so maybe we should add this into the song’ or something like that?
ALI: Well, yeah, I feel “Strawberry” was really the Catalyst because people just liked the song in general, but they would always say ‘Oh, I really like when you scream’ and enough people said it to where I was like, ‘maybe I should just do that more.’ And because I like when I scream, I was like, great, you like it, I like it, sounds good, let’s just put it all over the place.
SWIM: You guys mentioned the song “Tim Burton’s Tower” earlier. I love his movies – is he an inspiration? Did you draw anything from him for the song title?
JACOB: I think it’s more of a Troy, New York thing.
ALI: Yeah, the lyrics of the song are loosely about someone who just wants to be a movie star, but the song was inspired by this old church that we could see from our apartment in Troy. It had this scary-looking tower, and we would always just call it the Tim Burton Tower. Troy has a lot of really old Gothic architecture and historical buildings from the 1800s, which is really cool. But yeah, and it’s the oldest song on the record, or at least the oldest idea. We were still living upstate when I wrote that, and I think it just stuck. I thought, 'Oh, since it’s a song called Tim Burton’s Tower, I’ll just make it about the movies.'
SWIM: Do you have any favorite Tim Burton movies?
ALI: Well, we definitely love The Nightmare Before Christmas. I think Edward Scissorhands specifically was what I was picturing while we were writing that song. We actually had a VHS of Edward Scissorhands on in the background in LA while we were recording the song. That scene where he’s cutting the shrubs with his hand, it’s just, like, so crazy.
SWIM: Have you ever seen the movie Sleepy Hollow? Was that in Upstate New York, or am I imagining that?
JACOB: No, you’re not imagining, there is. I saw it once. It’s good. It’s a crazy movie.
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SWIM: Was there a live band you all saw that was so good that it sparked a competitive fire for you to want to go practice harder and get better as musicians?
ALI: Oh, that’s a really cool question. Yes, I mean, I feel like I have two answers for this.
I think maybe not in a competitive way, but more just in an inspirational way. We were on our way to record A Place You Grew Up In, out in California, so the whole band was driving across the country with our gear, and my aunt and uncle live just outside of Denver, so we crashed a couple of nights with them on our way to LA. It just so happened that Wilco was playing at Red Rocks, so we went to that. I was like, okay, we have to go to this, and the tickets were like 50 bucks a pop, so no brainer, let’s go. We just had the most amazing time, and we had never gone to a show just the four of us together, so that was really special. Wilco is just an incredible band, and Dan, our bass player, has always been a really big Wilco fan. After that show, I think we were all just like, 'Oh my God, wow, what a crazy, awesome experience.'
Another sort of band that I feel like really ticks this box is Robber Robber from Burlington, Vermont. They’re an amazing band, really sweet people, and friends of ours. We’ve played a show or two with them, but they’re an incredible live band. I remember Joe, after he saw Zack (from Robber Robber) play the drums for the first time, he literally went home and was like, ‘I need to practice more.’ Joe is already such an incredible drummer, so when he says something like that, you know he’s gotta be mind-blown. It was really cool to see how inspired he was by Zack’s playing, and we all love that band. They’re awesome. They put on a sick live show, so you should check them out if you haven’t.
SWIM: For me, music is a lot about scenery and vibes. If you listen to the right album at the right time, it can enhance your experience. Is there an ideal setting you would love for people to listen to your new album so that it might enhance their listening experience?
JACOB: I think it’s a subway record.
ALI: Yeah, I definitely think listening on the subway is really cool because the subway is kind of chaotic sometimes, but especially the above-ground trains, where you can see outside and you can just see everything moving fast and all these random people in the train car that are just on their daily commute or whatever. I do enjoy listening to it then. I think we've both said it can be really noisy when you’re listening with earpods, and you can still hear the sounds of the train and people and whatever else is going on.. It’s almost like the music blends in because it’s grimy and noisy already; it sort of just incorporates those sounds, so it’s like it doesn’t really matter if you have bleed from the outside world. But yeah, I haven’t really found a place that’s beat that experience for me with this record yet.
JACOB: I think our previous records were made more for the car because we were upstate. Now we never drive.
ALI: Yeah, I don’t know if this is a car album.
JACOB: I don’t think it is.
SWIM: The album is so chaotic and up-tempo and has so much energy. It feels like it’s built for body movement: either you’re walking, you’re running, or you’re on the subway. I think that’s perfect for your guys’ record.
ALI: Yeah, yeah, walking is nice. Walking in any city, I think, would also be pretty nice. Just point A to point B type stuff.
SWIM: Thanks so much for taking the time! See you on tour soon.
ALI: Thank you. Have a great rest of your day.
David is a content mercenary based in Chicago. He’s also a freelance writer specializing in music, movies, and culture. His hidden talents are his mid-range jump shot and the ability to always be able to tell when someone is uncomfortable at a party. You can find him scrolling away on Instagram @davidmwill89, Twitter @Cobretti24, or Medium @davidmwms.